Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:01 <inaudible> welcome to sermon Q and a pastor Michael, here with you. I am here with pastor Craig and with pastor Peter and Peter is our guests from Uganda and on Sunday, September 19th, 2021, uh, pastor Craig and I, we preached the third sermon in our series on spiritual war. So pastor Peter, you came up at the end of our service in Bartlett, and we talked quite a bit about your ministry and what's happening and, and child sacrifice. Uh, our audience already knows you, but, uh, it's a very real thing. So the question for you is how does a person go from a cult practices, dabbling in dark magic and things like that to the point where they are either sacrificing your child, where they're giving their child to sacrifice, how do you go from dabbling to child sacrifice?
Speaker 1 00:00:57 Um, yeah. Uh, in the awkward practices, we have to understand that there is, uh, a very intentional process, uh, that happens to drive a passion to the extremity of evil. I would say, um, these levels of, uh, for example, there is a, uh, recruitment, um, some people, uh, either through their own wheel or through any possum that, um, pluses themselves in the position of control of that particular person, they have a very intentional, uh, process of recruitment that is deceptive, uh, to them, uh, that the, uh, so persuasive in their play an unticked and, uh, and GAM that this person is almost, uh, has no chance of resisting. Uh, some of those, uh, could be, um, um, press, uh, isolation. They put you in a very isolated, and we have seen this even in, uh, in these times of, uh, COVID where people are isolated.
Speaker 1 00:02:16 They tend to go far away from the connection of, um, their faith and they are desperate. Uh, they have individual thoughts. And so they put you in a place of isolation alone to be able to control you and drive, uh, that spiritual yourself when you are involved in those practices, once you are isolated deal level of intestine into that practice goes higher. And then of course, others, you will put into a pure group, um, in this practices, sometimes it's very difficult to do it alone. And if in our setting in Uganda, we have people called witch doctors that have, um, um, shrines and those strains are almost, um, separate and covered. And so when you go there, you have people that will, um, be like testimonials to you that we also are here. You are not alone. You are blessed into some form of, uh, a group that pressurizes you to take away any doubt or any resistance on your side.
Speaker 1 00:03:36 So first of all, you are captive. And then the other thing that they that is done through these practices is something that called, um, love bone being. They crush your love, lineages or connections with the people that matter to your family and create a sense of, um, um, family within their peer pressure. We are for you, we care for you. And so by the time you get to the level of, um, um, sacrificing a child, uh, yo um, mind thought process, uh, reasoning is completely impaired and you are a captive. Wow. And then you, uh, take into another level and you have commitments. You do the financial commitments you do, because they be well convinced that you are to sacrifice, to invest. You invest your mind, your finances yourself, and by the time you, they, and then the practice by the time you sacrifice her child, you have gone through the levels of sacrifices.
Speaker 1 00:04:51 They'll give you a chicken, cut the chicken, sprinkle the blood over somebody, or your head or yourself, drink the blood. Um, you'll sacrifice a goat, um, and they give you the knife and they tell you, cut the head off and the blood out, collect the blood. By the time you get to a sacrifice of a child days as a slow gradual, uh, process, uh, in some ways there are many ways that, um, um, graduates show to another level. And then, you know, Ew, Ew, Ew, Ew is self-professed. So by the time you reach to sacrifice a child, uh, you are already not your own mind, your own self. You are a captive, you are a held, um, you, you, you have control, your third has been taken away, or your reasoning is taken away. Uh, you only realize that later when the practice has happened, or you have sacrificed a child or somebody that you're like, oh, what I do. And that is also when maybe you have been caught or arrested or something like that. So there's a, an evil plan, skim practice, uh, initiation, recruitment drive separation, um, that create a sense of, uh, belonging. Uh, you already taken your mind has been captivated to do that. And it's, uh, it's intentional in many ways, by the scheme of the devil, uh, the people that subscribed to eat, um, and the separation from the reality of humanity,
Speaker 2 00:06:39 These camps that go on, like, how do they, how do they find people that they want to recruit as, I mean, are these known areas where you can go and, and you can participate in this kind of activity.
Speaker 1 00:06:52 Th they had different scenarios. Um, I'll give you an example. Um, 2000, uh, about five years ago, we arrested a witch doctor with three heads of children. He ran away and we looked for him for about two and a half years. We later found him. And this is what he said after he was arrested, did not deny, but he told, he told us he was doing these sacrifice from generations, from his uncles, uh, aunties. And, you know, and by the time we caught him, he had been the graduated into this for him. It was from childhood generational process and he had no fear. He would tell you straight away. Yes. We used to sacrifice to drain, used to sacrifice people would drink their blood. And he had no remorse at all because his heart had been hurting. He was not aggressive. Another child, another case I dealt with was a father who, uh, kidnapped his own.
Speaker 1 00:07:58 Uh, son took this on to the witch doctor. Um, they killed the son, cut the head off from the ears. Um, but we were able to find the, the father, uh, about a year later. And you would see he was, uh, a bit remorseful and regressive, and he confessed doing it, but he gave us a process through of how the ma the, the witch doctor told him you're going to get wealth. You're going to increase your salary. Um, you know, he fussed sacrificed a goat in a cow to took his money. And then they, uh, later sacrificed his son and the sacrifice of it. Sometimes it's through pure belief that they are completely ingrained in to the practice that they don't believe it. Uh, the other option is purely, uh, for, you know, gain pupper says, Hey, the way it's evil, uh, uh, on the sacrifice of a child, is it to end the GIM between the father who is seeking wealth and a witch doctor, because the witch doctor or the ma the middleman, I would say, who claims to have the powers has taken so much from you.
Speaker 1 00:09:24 He has nothing to offer you. And the only way to end the game is to make your mother that sacrifice, because when we sacrifice, you're not going to report to me anyway, we will end again, if you report me, you're a mother of two I'm in my daughter, we will be arrested. And so they end the game. On that point. You have no way to tell that I sacrifice my son. They will arrest you and take tickets to prison. So either way, those are skims, manipulative schemes that, uh, evil, demonic, and spiritually, uh, driven to, to manipulate people.
Speaker 0 00:10:04 What is a, I mean, it's so foreign at the end. I mean, Americans have very, the vast majority have very little category.
Speaker 2 00:10:12 How, how can we the American church, how can we bless you, Peter, and the ministry that you're doing in, uh, in Uganda,
Speaker 1 00:10:19 Uh, the biggest, uh, request for us is prayer because, uh, um, days, uh, um, the extreme portion of evil that we're faced with really, uh, for me, I believe is anyone who kills a child is purely evil. And, uh, it's a heavy and difficult, uh, to see lifeless bodies of children in bushes dumped. And we have to pick up the Pacers to encourage the parents and to keep fighting that this will end in our land. And we believe that God is on our side, that this will end in our country. And, um, uh, it's a prayer we, we asked for prayer for.
Speaker 2 00:11:16 So we're, we're spending some time talking about the weapons of warfare and yeah, that's going to be one of the main ones that we're going to be parking on in our messages. And this will help that immense punch even more for us to take time in our busy lives and pray for you, uh, cause you're knee deep in the eval and you need protection or your teams need protection. And those poor children need a love of God in their lives.
Speaker 0 00:11:42 Um, you, you and I did an episode on, um, our other show, um, village church, Q and a, which would just go through a bunch of questions. And I think it was season one, episode four. Uh, we did about a, I think it was about a 30 minute interview and we went really deep into the subject. And so I want to invite you guys, if you want to go a little bit deeper there, check that out. You can also go to, um, the last 20 minutes of a sermon at Bartlett where Peter and I process quite a bit of this that was on September 19th, 2021. So Craig, before we leave, would you pray for which pray for Peter? And then we'll sign up.
Speaker 2 00:12:15 I'm grateful father for Peter and for his teams. I'm grateful for his vision to see this culture change. This oppression, that demonic oppression that obviously has a huge hold in Uganda change. I pray father that you would, uh, through your strength and through your truth, uh, that you would redeem this land that you would convince them, that you love them more than what Satan has to offer them. And that, that would be the most attractive thing for them. Thanks for Peter, protect his heart and his mind for all the evil that he sees, redeem his abilities to serve these people with love and with almost a tenderness, even though he has to deal with the harshness of this depth of evil and father, our prayers for the entire world, because it doesn't just go on on Uganda. It is worldwide. And so father through your church, may you see a generation turn to Jesus Christ turned back to you in Jesus name. I pray.
Speaker 0 00:13:13 Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for joining us. We'll see you next time on sermon Q1.
